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#18352 403 Error - Access Denied

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Latest post by nicholas on Friday, 29 November 2013 01:54 CST

user78125
 I have automatic blacklisting for invalid logins enabled

A valid user was blacklisted for invalid logins to the administrator are. I removed the IP from the blacklist and also added the IP the whitelist

The user is still unable to access the site receiving a 403 error,

I cleaned out entire blacklist and disabled the option to use the blacklist, but the error persisted.

Disabling Admin Tools was the only way I was able to resolve the problem.

Any suggestions? Thanks

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager
Did you follow all of the instructions of the troubleshooter page, including removing the user's IP address from the exceptions log and the automatic IP ban list?

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

πŸ‡¬πŸ‡·Greek: native πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§English: excellent πŸ‡«πŸ‡·French: basic β€’ πŸ• My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

user78125
I do not see any relevant troubleshooting guides at
https://www.akeebabackup.com/documentation/troubleshooter/admintools.html

Please advise the trouble shooting guide your're referring too.

Are you saying that the logs are used to determine access?

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager
I mean this one: https://www.akeebabackup.com/documentation/troubleshooter/atwafissues.html

The information under "Automatically banned IP address" applies in your case:

Go to Components, Admin Tools, Web Application Firewall and click the Exceptions Log button. Delete all records with your own IP address. Then, go back to Web Application Firewall and click on the Auto IP Blocking Administration button. Select the record showing your IP address and click on the Delete button to delete the block.


I suspect that you did not remove the records from the Exceptions Log. This means that the next time someone from that IP tries to access your site he will be eligible for auto-block (depending on your automatic IP blocking settings, of course). The automatic IP blocking runs before the whitelist. I hope this information helps.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

πŸ‡¬πŸ‡·Greek: native πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§English: excellent πŸ‡«πŸ‡·French: basic β€’ πŸ• My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

user78125
Thanks this is now working

In summary the IP needs to be removed from 3 places
- Exceptions Log
- Site IP Blacklist
- Auto IP Blocking Administration

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager
The IP is automatically added in two places:
- Exceptions Log: added every time the user triggers the protection on your site
- Auto IP Blocking Administration: added when the user triggers the protection on your site too many times, per the automatic IP blocking configuration

Regarding the "Site IP Blacklist", IPs are added there only manually. I have to say this: this is a feature I discourage my clients from using. No, it is working just fine and that's the problem :) Once you put an IP in there, it is blocked from accessing Joomla!. For ever. That "forever" part is the problem. A hacker will not foolishly use the same IP for a long time. In fact, a real hacker will use a dynamic IP or a botnet to attack a site. By blocking an IP address forever you will end up blocking a client sooner or later. The automatic IP block is much better because it only blocks an IP for a limited amount of time, i.e. just as long as it's required to let an automatic attack from a single IP flame out. Well, consider this a free advice and better insight into what each type of IP blocking does. It's ultimately up to you to decide what works best for your site.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

πŸ‡¬πŸ‡·Greek: native πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§English: excellent πŸ‡«πŸ‡·French: basic β€’ πŸ• My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

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