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#39692 Panopticon backup before update Joomla version

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Environment Information

Joomla! version
4.4.0
PHP version
8.1
Akeeba Backup version
9.8.1

Latest post by nicholas on Tuesday, 24 October 2023 08:40 CDT

brainynl

Hi, first I want to give a big compliment on Panopticon. I am surprised about all the features and love the short learning curve.

I have a question and a notification;

 

There is now no "backup before update" when the Joomla version is updated via Panopticon. I do have this turned on in the backend and it does happen if I update there.
Where can I set Panopticon to also automatically "backup before a Joomla version update"?

 

Then there is an error message;
--Open Administration -- Sites
--Do not select any site but just click on EDIT, then you get this message:
There was an unrecoverable error
The server returned the following error:
403 - Access Forbidden

That's all, thanks for another great piece of software.

 

 Best regards, Hein
brainy.nl

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager

Taking backups before updates is already on the to-do list. The priority was to make sure that updates work everywhere, then add the nice to have things ;)

Regarding the Edit button, hm, I didn't think anyone would do that so I treated it as something mischievous which should result in a slap on the hand. I see your point. I'll write a small workaround for it.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
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brainynl

It is great, but getting better and better :) 

I am used to test every button, so that's why I mentioned it. No more wishes for now ;)

But, I am sorry, ---no prio--- another noticeable thing,

When I see all the sites via menu "overview"  I see that most of them have not gone through the automatic update of Joomla from 4.3.4 --> Stable Can be upgraded to --> 4.4.0 Stable

It is like that for a few days now. 

Is there a frequency there that I can't set?

I have set in the settings that immediately every minor update should be performed.

If I then manually click on the sites 1 by 1 from that overview and choose update immediately, it does 1 or 2 of the five chosen. The rest I then have to click again and then it works, as long as I do it 1 by 1 or 2 max.

 Best regards, Hein
brainy.nl

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager

Remember that the update information comes from Joomla! running on your site. Panopticon retrieves this information every 15' as long as the CRON job is running.

Also keep in mind that the tasks the CRON job handles have priorities. Updating sites, updating extensions, taking backups, and scanning sites take priority over housekeeping tasks (getting information on Joomla, PHP, and extensions on your sites). If you have lots of sites you should have more CRON jobs running to take up the extra load.

This also means that if you choose to update a bunch of sites, they are essentially updated one at a time (they're waiting in a queu to be updated) unless you set up additional CRON jobs.

In my experience, one CRON job works great with up to 10 sites if you can wait anywhere between 5' up to 20' for the update to take place (it strongly depends on the site's host). If you have, dunno, 100 sites then you definitely need to run multiple CRON jobs. Keep in mind that when the CRON jobs do nothing the consume very little memory and CPU time. They only wake up every 15" to check if there's a task they need to handle.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

brainynl

Okay, thanks for this info. I will go and experiment with it. Now 50 sites are on 1 cron. So I will make some extra jobs. 

 Best regards, Hein
brainy.nl

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager

Yep, 50 sites with 1 CRON jobs will make for a very slow experience whenever there's a new version of Joomla :)

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

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